Abby Lee Miller isn't dancing around her estrangement from former student Maddie Ziegler.
In fact, the Dance Moms alum is firing back at Ziegler's previous comments that Miller created a "toxic environment" for her young mentees while filming the iconic 2010s reality show.
"When you wanted to win and you wanted to come in extra and you wanted more private lessons and you were the driving force, not your motherâshe was looking for husband No. 3," Miller told E!'s Hot Goss hosts Eyal Booker and Lonnie Marts IIV in an exclusive interview, "why didn't you say it then?"
The Abby Lee Dance Company founder went on to note that she not only championed the now-23-year-old in her competitive dance training, she was also a support system for Ziegler during her parents Melissa Ziegler and Kurt Ziegler's 2011 divorce.
"When your mother and father are screaming obscenities across the room and you're hugging me and you're holding on to me as tight as you can Maddie, why didn't tell me then you don't want to do a solo every week?" Miller continued. "You don't want to win every week. You don't want to be in the front. You could have said that easily to me."
And while the 60-year-old noted, "We were close enough that could have happened," she added of the Fitting In actress, "She wanted to win, she was a perfectionist."
E! News has reached out to the Zieglers for comment but did not receive an immediate response.
As for what it would take to mend their fractured relationship all these years later? Miller is waiting for Ziegler to choreograph the next steps.Â
"I'm the elder," she stated, "and you have to speak to your elders."
Of course, Ziegler isn't the only one of Miller's former students who has suggested she saved a great deal of tears for her pillow. Miller said she was shocked when Nia Sioux spoke out about her complicated experience as a child dancer.
Claiming the dancers werenât under contract, Miller told Hot Goss Sioux could have exited stage left "just like" Ziegler and JoJo Siwa, adding, "They never left until they had a better offer.â
In fact, Miller thinks those who've spoken ill of her in the years since the show's 2017 finale should eat a piece of humble pie.
"They're too big for their britches," the cancer survivor said. "They don't have time for their dance teacher. Or they think they did it, their mom and dad did it, they paid for the lessons."
Ultimately, Millerâwho now uses a wheelchair for mobilityâchooses to remember all she did to support her former students.
"I know what I did for them in my studio," she reflected. "I drove them back and forth, I took them to the auditions, I took them to cocktail parties, I introduced them to the right people."
Dance Moms drama aside, Miller is ready to give the same tireless mentoring to a fresh crop of up-and-comers on her new star search Abby vs. Cathy: Hit the 8!.
As the name suggests, the competition reunites her with former nemesis Cathy Nesbitt-Stein, though Miller is clear she doesnât see the fellow studio owner as a true adversary.Â
"We were never rivals!" Miller declared to E!. "I just shut her up real quickly. She sits next to me, she's like a little bug and I can just squash her."
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In the meantime, keep reading to see where your favorite Dance Moms alums are today.
In the decade-plus since the Pennsylvania native pirouetted her way into our hearts as the unquestionable star of the Abby Lee Dance Company, she's jeted her way from electropop star Sia's music video darling to film actress with appearances in Sia's directorial debut Music, the 2021 West Side Story remake, the 2024 flick My Old Ass and 2026's Pretty Lethal.
She also released a New York Times best-selling memoir, 2017's The Maddie Diaries, judged a new crop of talent on So You Think You Can Dance: The Next Generation and teamed with younger sister Kenzie Ziegler for their Take 20 With Maddie and Kenzie podcast. "I think we wanted to let our guards down and show something that wasn't so heavily produced," Maddie explained to E! News, "and, rather, just us having a pretty casual conversation."
Most recently, she returned to her roots, dancing alongside Addison Rae at her 2026 Coachella set.
Though, for her next act, she's eyeing her own beauty empire. "I would love to do my own line one day," she said. "I think that would be so amazing and something that I've dreamt of doing forever."
Fully graduated from her acro days, the singer has gone on to release tracks like 2023's "Anatomy," a very personal ballad detailing her relationship with her estranged father. "I definitely am stepping out of my comfort zone," she told People of the single, "and being authentic in a different way thatâs not just on social mediaâIâm telling my story.â
And with all due respect to the more than 14 million Dance Moms fans who follow her on Instagram, she dug a little deeper for her third album, biting my tongue, which dropped in July 2024, and the April 2026 EP notes from the in between.
"I feel like this is just the first time where I can talk about things that have happened with my life and share some important things to me," the She Dances actress told E! News in 2021. "I just want people to take away something from itâwhether that be happy, whether that be sad or that they can relate to it."Â
Nearly a decade after she took her final Dance Moms bow, the trophy-collecting soloist was ready to start living on the dance floor again.
âI missed dance, and I wanted to find a way to get back to something I had loved so much,â the Girl on Pointe: Chloe's Guide to Taking on the World author explained of launching ElevĂ© National Dance Competition with mom Christi Lukasiak and fellow mother-daughter duo Diane and Brittany Pent. âBut I wanted to help create something that was the exact opposite of what I had experienced. Something positive. I challenged myself to develop something to reignite my love of dance.â
Though the competition took a bow after one year, the Pepperdine University grad is still making moves. Focusing primarily on content creation, the newly minted New York City resident has also been writing her "first fiction fantasy book," she told E! News in 2023 and putting some thought into her next chapter. "What I've learned the past couple of years is that everything works out exactly as it's supposed to do."
The OG company member continues to slay in music (she dropped her single "Low Key Love" in 2020) and acting, fronting the web series Sunnyside Up and appearing in 59 episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful.
And while wrapping up her day job as a UCLA student (she graduated with a degree in American Literature and Culture in June 2024), she was moonlighting in Hollywood, dropping her single "IMMA CATCH" and landing on Variety's 2023 Young Hollywood Impact Report.
"Storytelling is so powerful, and that's something I'm really, really passionate about," she explained to E! News ahead of the November 2025 release of Bottom of the Pyramid. And while she still has a long list of career goals, acting will definitely be a part of her next chapter.Â
"My first love was always dance, but, in addition to that, theater," explained Nia, who enjoyed a May 2026 run in theatrical dance experience 11 to Midnight. "So, at some point I want to get back into it."
Trading in group numbers for group trips, the eldest of the show's OGs led a 2023 excursion to Costa Rica, sharing on Instagram in July that "7 days took us from strangers to friends crying in the airport having to say goodbye to each other."
Next up, was a six-day jaunt through Croatia inspired by the European backpacking trip she enjoyed after graduating from Ohio University. "I explored beautiful places and cultures, while making lifelong friends in the process," she shared. "It was the trip of a lifetime."
When stateside, the Pittsburgh residentâwho married account manager Brian Thalman in February 2026âmakes the most of her marketing degree, both with her Bite-Sized Foodie Instagram account and the Hyland Sisters brand she shares with little sib Paige.Â
The four-season vet has few tears to save for her pillow as of late. Since earning her degree from West Virginia University in May 2023 ("IM SO PROUD OF YOU!!!! Congratulations," Christi Lukasiak commented on her graduation 'gram), the model and influencer has criss-crossed the country with stops in the Hamptons, Colorado and Wyoming.
Paige's No. 1 travel buddy (other than older sis Brooke): Her longtime boyfriend, former college football player Jayvon Thrift. "Adore you in every kind of way," she wrote of the fitness model in a 2022 post.Â
The pair marked five years together in July 2024 by signing their first apartment lease, Paige writing on Instagram, "new adventure coming soon."
Up until recently, the James Madison University grad was still collecting trophies as part of the Virginia college's championship-winning dance team. "Younger me would be so proud," the political science major wrote in a September 2023 Instagram. (Naturally, her dance mom Jill Vertes chimed in, "I know Iâm so proud of my little kendall.")
In addition to trying her hand at acting (including the 2019 movie Rapunzel: A Princess Frozen in Time and a live-action version of Anastasia) and singing (as Kendall K, she released several albums), the season two arrival has nabbed more than a few sponsorships, thanks to her 11 million Instagram followers.Â
Despite appearing in just two seasons of the OG series (after a stint on Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition) JoJo with a Bow Bow arguably stole the spotlight, going on to nab a massive YouTube following, an exclusive licensing deal with Nickelodeon, endless branded merchandise and a spot on Time's 100 most influential people of 2020.
"One of the biggest things that I ever learned from Dance Moms was either to sink or swim," she once explained to Kelly Ripa. "Not, like, physically, actually in a swimming pool. But to really just be able to survive and to want it."
These days, as she pals around with the likes of Miley Cyrus and Kim Kardashian, she's doing more than treading water. In 2021, the LGBTQ+ icon partnered with Jenna Johnson to compete as the first same-sex couple on the U.S. version of Dancing With the Stars.
Now she's eyeing an even bigger stage, telling Raven-SymonĂ© and wife Miranda Pearman-Maday, "My dream, dream, dream, dream is the Super Bowl, to do the halftime performance.Â
And once the singerâwho dropped her debut EP Guilty Pleasure in July 2024âscores that gig, she told the duo on an August 2023 episode of The Best Podcast Ever, "Then I'll retire and have babies." Her potential parenting partner: Boyfriend of more than a year, Chris Hughes. Â
Back home in Arizona, the dancer, actress and entrepreneur is fully embracing what she calls "my health and wellness era" with the 2023 launch of her beauty line Kare.
"I struggle with anxiety," she explained to E! News of her inspiration. "And I really wanted to create a brand that was inclusive to everyone to be able to just relax and take time for yourself and have a solid self-care routine to help you get through your day."
And, yes, the season 4 arrival, who also got her start on Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, is still nailing every last arabesque, having dipped her perfectly arched foot back into dancing and teaching by launching her Khaos Dance Studio in 2026.
"I obviously have a very different teaching way than Abby does towards me. Or, honestly, most of my dance teachers," shared the dancer, who tied the knot with Nathan Goldman in September 2025. "I like to be very kind, but also you've got to push them to be the best they can be."
Consider Asia officially raised. Though the California native stepped away from TV cameras just before her 10th birthdayâfollowing one season each on Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, Dance Moms and her own standalone series Raising Asiaâ"I genuinely had a great experience on it," Asia insisted to E! News in 2021, acknowledging that wasn't necessarily the case for many of her costars. "There was nothing that I would change on my experience whatsoever."
Wrapping up her high school career in June 2023 as a valedictorian, "Iâm extremely proud of myself for achieving a personal goal," the model and artist wrote on Instagram, "and I canât wait to see whatâs next."
Thanks to a plethora of brand deals, invites to every it event, appearances on Grey's Anatomy and American Crime Story and an eponymous album, her future seems bright.
As for her reality star past, "I really did enjoy the time I had out there and growing up on television," she told E!. "Even though it seems like a lot, it was something that really set me up for life that I would never take for granted."
Since joining the team in season 7, the St. Louis native has been living on some much larger dance floors.
Between touring with Kendrick Lamar and performing in Usherâs Las Vegas residency and Super Bowl halftime show, she took to the Grammys stage with Missy Elliott. "Beyond blessed!!!" she wrote of the February 2023 experience.
And after gigs dancing in the 30th anniversary celebration of The Lion King at the Hollywood Bowl, alongside Chloe Bailey at the BET Awards and Tate McRae at the 2025 VMAs, she plans to keep climbing her own personal pyramid. As she put it in a December 2022 Instagram marking the end of her 76-show stint with Lamar, "I know this is only the beginning."
When she exited stage left after a three-season stint that saw her trying to fill Maddie's ballet shoes, the Phoenix native "wanted to go back to high school and I wanted to just be normal and have my friends," she explained in a 2023 YouTube video with best friend Kelsey Millar. "High school sucked, but Iâm glad that I did it. And now that Iâve experienced  both lives, I know what I want. Which, there is a way to balance both of them in the middle."
For the 2021 grad, that's meant launching her and Millar's Out of Line podcast and documenting her trips to Coachella and Stagecoach for her three million Instagram followers. Plus, experiencing more than a few run-ins with fans when she takes her dance students to competitions.
"It's really cute," Brynn, who remains close to Kenzie, said of one encounter. "They're like, 'Miss Brynn, you're famous?'"Â